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Jan 12th, 2013 Dakar Rally Stage 8 Race Info & Discussion
Join in and discuss all the action from Stage 8 of the 2013 Dakar Rally. Robby Gordon recorded his 3rd straight 3rd place finish in Stage 7, but remains 23rd overall. Gordon is still down over 5 hours in the overall, but will get yet another good starting spot in an attempt to win his first stage of the rally. The cars are slated to begin the special section of stage 8 at 12:05pm/et and Robby Gordon will begin his special section around 12:11pm/etam/et. Raceday chat will be available throughout the entire 2013 Dakar Rally. UPDATE: Stage 8 will now begin at KM288.
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STAGE 8 TRACKING
STAGE 8: SALTA > SAN MIGUEL DE TUCAMAN
Connection 379km | Special Stage 470km | Total 849km
COURSE OVERVIEW
The Tucuman route will be divided into two timed sections with a variety of scenery. With hoodoos, canyons and cacti, the competitors will discover the red and green backdrop of Argentina’s most beautiful natural landscape, which will unfold for more than 150 km creating a Western atmosphere. During the second half of the timed section, which will take place in a region completely unknown to the Dakar, the contrast will be apparent on the sandy and sometimes tricky tracks. It may also be manifested through the weather conditions, if the wind is combined with the high temperatures which ravage the region. The rest day will rarely have been more deserved, in particular for the motorcyclists who will finish their marathon stage..
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Permalink Reply by ivanspeed on
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kudos to this guy he should get BONUS times for ACTUALLY attempting it unlike alibaba he shuld be penalized for chicken stuffs
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Permalink Reply by Gabriel de Armero on
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Even Nani Roma is piss off about this .. he also pass the river and no credit for him. If they give 45 min credit to RG then I'm OK.
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Permalink Reply by Dave Horwath on
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This is my first time watching the Dakar rally closely. People dog NASCAR saying it's fixed blahblahblah, but this looks like a joke with the rules. I'm no expert by any means, but if I understand last years DQ for Robby, he had a vehicle that past pre race inspection, then failed after the race to be DQd for the tire inflation system (if I'm wrong about this, sorry), now this! This looks as fixed as it get's and I'm now questioning the credibility of the whole thing. It's hared to watch as they change the rules. My father in law was a booky years ago and said the only sport that could be fixed was boxing because only 2 people could know. Well he's gone now and if he followed this with me he'd laugh me outta the house! JMO
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Thomas Bourgin ;-(
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Permalink Reply by Punisfarm on
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Nasser will be sending DeVillers a Christmas present. DeVillers was the one that sat up and wouldn't cross the river saying it was to dangerous to cross. This stopped everyone behind from crossing. DeVillers is no mug and seeing he's in third place knows the rules and knows that if most of the drivers don't cross there will be a red flag. I'm sure he was talking to all the drivers behind him explaining the rules. Was the right move and the guys that did cross got something for their effort.Nasser was stuck, fucked and could've lost the rally but got a break when they red flagged the race. ASO does run the Tour de France and they have the same rules to try and keep it an even playing field. The difference is the delay caused by pilot error, Robby getting stuck in the sand and flipping the Hummer on it's roof would be classed as pilot error, versus something on course stopping most racers from completing the course like the swollen river. Because of the start times the the first guys were able to cross the river where's the guy's getting there later had to deal with more water. You have to ask yourself if Robby was stuck on the wrong side of the river with his rivals driving away how would you feel?
The best thing is Robby continued to race even being 5hours down. Without him the race wouldn't be worth watching. Go Robby!
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Permalink Reply by Carl Abrams on
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This may be the case with a lot of the back starters but devillars and nassar started in front of several cars that finished and they should not be rewarded for having a shitty day.
Or being to chickenshit to cross.
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Permalink Reply by alan4s on
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Turn it around. What if the first handful of drivers had arrived at a swollen river and got stuck trying to cross. Subsequent drivers then making it across later as the waters lowered. Would the ASO give back time to the stuck drivers? I don't think so, and I don't think they should. Just like they shouldn't give time back to those who chose not to cross when others did.
All times should stand up until the time that the special was red flagged. Last car to the finish at that time should be the baseline, and time added to all who did not finish from there.
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This is about as fair as having no winner in a baseball game.
Let all the kids be winners because it boosts moral.
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Permalink Reply by RICK ALDRIDGE on
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Alan - Actually there is ASO procedure for that. In the TDF, if leaders are held up at a train crossing, they get their time back. If the peleton is held up, the gap is allowed to widen, per ASO rules.
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Permalink Reply by will on
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Yes Alan there is president of ASO doing exactly that. In fact it was stage 8 of 2012 when Cyril Depres was stuck in the mud hole that was not in the road book. Even though others successfully navigated around the mud Depres was awarded his time back causing holy hell to be raised similar to what we are seeing now. Not that I'm saying any of this is right or wrong, rather that this is the way of Dakar.
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Remember though that the start times were EARNED by those drivers the previous day.
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