Jan 12th, 2013 Dakar Rally Stage 8 Race Info & Discussion

Join in and discuss all the action from Stage 8 of the 2013 Dakar Rally. Robby Gordon recorded his 3rd straight 3rd place finish in Stage 7, but remains 23rd overall. Gordon is still down over 5 hours in the overall, but will get yet another good starting spot in an attempt to win his first stage of the rally. The cars are slated to begin the special section of stage 8 at 12:05pm/et and Robby Gordon will begin his special section around 12:11pm/etam/et.  Raceday chat will be available throughout the entire 2013 Dakar Rally. UPDATE: Stage 8 will now begin at KM288.


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STAGE 8 TRACKING


STAGE 8: SALTA > SAN MIGUEL DE TUCAMAN

Connection 379km | Special Stage 470km | Total 849km

 

COURSE OVERVIEW

The Tucuman route will be divided into two timed sections with a variety of scenery. With hoodoos, canyons and cacti, the competitors will discover the red and green backdrop of Argentina’s most beautiful natural landscape, which will unfold for more than 150 km creating a Western atmosphere. During the second half of the timed section, which will take place in a region completely unknown to the Dakar, the contrast will be apparent on the sandy and sometimes tricky tracks. It may also be manifested through the weather conditions, if the wind is combined with the high temperatures which ravage the region. The rest day will rarely have been more deserved, in particular for the motorcyclists who will finish their marathon stage..




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Turn it around. What if the first handful of drivers had arrived at a swollen river and got stuck trying to cross. Subsequent drivers then making it across later as the waters lowered. Would the ASO give back time to the stuck drivers? I don't think so, and I don't think they should. Just like they shouldn't give time back to those who chose not to cross when others did.

All times should stand up until the time that the special was red flagged. Last car to the finish at that time should be the baseline, and time added to all who did not finish from there.

This is about as fair as having no winner in a baseball game.
Let all the kids be winners because it boosts moral.

Alan - Actually there is ASO procedure for that. In the TDF, if leaders are held up at a train crossing, they get their time back. If the peleton is held up, the gap is allowed to widen, per ASO rules.

Yes Alan there is president of ASO doing exactly that. In fact it was stage 8 of 2012 when Cyril Depres was stuck in the mud hole that was not in the road book. Even though others successfully navigated around the mud Depres was awarded his time back causing holy hell to be raised similar to what we are seeing now. Not that I'm saying any of this is right or wrong, rather that this is the way of Dakar.

Remember though that the start times were EARNED by those drivers the previous day.

I don't think Nasser celebrates Christmas

The Dakar is the toughest rally in the world - period. They route the rally through almost every terrain known to man and including river crossing etc; Weather and conditions will change - no doubt about it! How many of us in the past rallies saw many teams stuck in the desert overnight because of windy conditions? Why is this different, because ASO's main man has gotten adrift? Bullshit - that's what I call it!

To maintain the Dakar's integrity and consistency they need to award those that made it to the finish of Stage 8.

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So, what is the final outcome of this mess?

I would hope an official announcement be made later today. Today is a rest day and tomorrow will be the start of the second half...what a political nightmare!

Huge special in Stage 9 - 593kms. Hope it doesn't rain or snow or whatever and the leaders get stuck...or LOL.

I guess at the end of the day we all want to see credit time going back to RG and the Hummer. We had a bummer flip and recovered. Imagine the feel good story that could come of all this....

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