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Here we go again...RGM to switch manufactures?
Hoping this is just a knee jerk reaction and not and actual negotiation process. Hearing RGM is in discussions with Red Bull Racing & MWR about the possibility of switching to Toyota, but will wait until he tests Dodge's new engine package and sits down with GEM.
RGM has been fighting poor fuel mileage and lack of horsepower all year with the engines they receive from GEM. Dodge has their new 2009 engine coming soon and Gordon might wait and see if this cures his problems. The GEM engines have been very reliable with only one engine related problem in Cup due to a wiring problem and one overheating issue this past weekend in the Nationwide series.
As for the possibility of switching to Toyota:
Red Bull has shown alot of progress in only it's 2nd year in Cup racing. Brian Vickers is currently 17th in the standings, while teammate AJ Allmendinger has climbed back into the Top 35 the hard way.
MWR has faired alot better it's 2nd year in Cup by keeping the #55 and #44 inside the Top 35, the #00 recently fell outside the Top 35 and driver Michael McDowell has been replaced by driver Mike Skinner at Michigan to evalute the team.
RGM has been fighting poor fuel mileage and lack of horsepower all year with the engines they receive from GEM. Dodge has their new 2009 engine coming soon and Gordon might wait and see if this cures his problems. The GEM engines have been very reliable with only one engine related problem in Cup due to a wiring problem and one overheating issue this past weekend in the Nationwide series.
As for the possibility of switching to Toyota:
Red Bull has shown alot of progress in only it's 2nd year in Cup racing. Brian Vickers is currently 17th in the standings, while teammate AJ Allmendinger has climbed back into the Top 35 the hard way.
MWR has faired alot better it's 2nd year in Cup by keeping the #55 and #44 inside the Top 35, the #00 recently fell outside the Top 35 and driver Michael McDowell has been replaced by driver Mike Skinner at Michigan to evalute the team.
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Permalink Reply by Ms Gibby on
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I think Toyota would be the best bet also, mainly because they haven't become so corrupted with 'favored' teams like Ford (Rousch) and Chevy (Hendrick). Let's face it, NONE of the so-called satellite teams ever perform nearly as well as the big dogs so don't try to tell me they all get the same stuff. And not being allowed to tune the engines is another way to cripple the smaller teams.
I certainly hope Toyota does not go the way of Chevy and Ford and let the most favored team (Gibbs) control what trickles down to everyone else. At this point I don't think they have.
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Permalink Reply by Keith on
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The boys on SIRIUS Tradin Paint said in the last week or so that no one who leases engines are allowed to "tune" on them. All the deals are the same. It's the only way they can assure that somebody doesn't "overtune" and cause premature failure.
As for the fuel mileage issue, that has always been a problem with Dodge motors. Petty was not able to do The Glenn on 2 stops either.
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Permalink Reply by Chuck on
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He got left like he was standind still this weekend, and the car was probably better than we've seen it at any oval race this year. I understand the point that a car thats working the center off the corner always looks like its got a ton of horsepower down the straight (I use it a lot), so when he comes on the radio at Pocono or Indy and complains about HP and how crappy the car is, I roll my eyes. But this weekend we were getting off the corners respectably and then left for dead after 300 feet. I'd say it was a smaller carb, but we couldn't have even two stopped the race without the "strategy."
I like that TRD is doing the motors, not a team over in the Toyota camp. If you're the manufacturer you care less which team wins, as long as the car says Camry on the front. If you're GEM, you want all those guys you're selling engines to fighting for fourth.
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Permalink Reply by Bigzoom on
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Don't forget Joe Gibbs Racing build their own motors, not TRD. Red Bull is TRD's top team right now. JGR racing provides motors to their outfit and Hall of Fame.
Red Bull, MWR and Bill Davis Racing use TRD.
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Permalink Reply by NIKAL on
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That is correct. Gibbs first attempt to run their in-house Toyota motor was at the All Star event. They had top end issues with all three teams. Gibbs started the year running TRD motors and up till now they are still using TRD power. I would not expect to see them try to us their own Toyota Motor until the chase starts. Then which ever team is out of the chase will most likely start running the house motors. That would be my guess atleast!
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That is correct... their first attempt was at the All-Star @ Charlotte.
If you recall Tony's motor went poof in practice and Kyle's did the same in the race.
So, they went back to TRD until their package is reliable.
BDR assembles their own using TRD technology.
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I disagree with your assessment of Watkins Glen, Robby was 2nd fastest in practice. his lap times during the race mirrored those of the front runners. He should have stayed out. He would have had several chances to make a later stop or even save fuel. Being a lap down for 3/4 ths of the race killed any chance.
Looking at the wrong guage? Seeing a radar full of green when the other 42 teams saw clear skies? I have never seen so many mistakes in one race. It was a total team meltdown.
It's obvious this past weekend was a blowup! Notice there's been No comments, No post race release on his site...nothing! Robby sounded very confident the last 3 races and all 3 have been a disaster. The team tested at Road Atlanta, was talking about Scott Riggs, invited some "special guests" to the race. I mean the invitations went out, the table was set and everybody was seated...the only problem is the cook burned the food!
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Permalink Reply by MikeNIN7 on
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Robby was running strong in his 55 N.W. car (I think he was fastest on the track) when I heard on my scaner that Walt was making an ajustment that would give Robby 2 more HP. 2 laps after he pitted he was over heating. If anone know what Walt did let me know.
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Permalink Reply by Mike/WC77 on
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That was the ugliest POS Rob ever drove! I get a lil nautious lookin at that pic. Reminds me how my stomach turned when I heard he had 2 Fubars in the shop prepping them for those God awful pics........ugh.
Thanks Alex, I might just loose my lunch now.
I'd rather see Rob out there runnin an '86 aerocoupe Monte Carlo, then one of those Fubar's again.....what a POS. Rousch can keep his F-bomb powerplants!
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Permalink Reply by FlyHiFlyLo on
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How about this. RG sells his Cup team to Stewart/Haas with partial Jim Beam sponsorship and drives the last three years of his driving carrer with Stewart. Tony gets justified for saying how good RG is when he makes the chase three years in a row.
Then RG starts his own off-road series and rides off into the baja sunset.
Fuck NASCAR!
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As long as he's successfull in the 7, right on. Bonus he'd be driving a Chevy! I don't think there would be a conflict with Menards. That I know of HD is staying put @ JGR. Might be a lil betwenn Tony's Coke contract,& Rob's Monster agreement. However, we all know Tony wouldn't have a problem with RG's extraciricular driving activities. Hell Tony might even try his hand in a TT...
Nice pipedream Fly, I kinda like it.
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Years ago we were talking to Robby about when he retires, how he would like to start his own version of the Mickey Thompson series. If anyone could have made it happen Robby could have. Since this time though Jim Baldwin had purchased the CORR series and he is doing sort of what Robby talked about years ago. The only difference is I think Robby was thinking of trying to bring the Stadium element back into it. Who knows maybe Robby will still consider it, or maybe by that time CORR will be so big that anything Robby would start would just be playing second fiddle.
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