NA$CAR Teams to test fuel injection at Kentucky

And people complain about "cheaters" now. Just wait....computer hackers will have a new area to work in. What ever happened to NA$CARS "keep the costs down" ?

What next ? one lug wheels, paddle shifters on the steering wheel. You will find me at the local dirt track, this stuff is gitting ridiculous.

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Permalink Reply by GasOnRobby on July 8, 2011 at 3:19pm

@Shane, that is my point. R&D for racing including NASCAR should be state-of-the-art and eventually find its way on the showroom. What in a cup car is state-of-the-art that will effect / influence the next model? Is there any USA series that does this?

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Permalink Reply by ShaneH on July 8, 2011 at 3:56pm

The days of race on Sunday, sell on Monday are long over. At least as far as nascar goes. You're never going to drive/influence design of a production car in a rules limiting series such as this. GTPrototype, F1, you betcha. Not nascar.

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Permalink Reply by MerlotMax on July 8, 2011 at 4:13pm

Considering the Charger is the only one of the four that IS a RWD off the showroom floor.

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Permalink Reply by GasOnRobby on July 8, 2011 at 4:20pm

'you betcha' - Is this Sarah Palin? lol

And that is the shame. Bad state of affairs for racing in America.

I could be totally off because the ADD / ADHD folks in the USA may turn it off because there are less wrecks, not running in a pack, and God forbid someone / some team may have an advantage and run away with the race.

I like competition and racing between teams, drivers, and manufactures not IROC.

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Permalink Reply by Ken on July 8, 2011 at 10:42am

Good point Shane. I remember hearing many a drive say that sometimes the car was better off the corner when it was down a cylinder. The point being the driver could still floor it off the corner with FI and the ECU would control just how much for the best power off without spinning the tires.

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Permalink Reply by GTX - HEMI on July 8, 2011 at 10:57am

OH.........NO traction control................where are na$cars brown shirts. If someone designed the ECU someone can touch it without prints.

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Permalink Reply by ShaneH on July 8, 2011 at 11:22am

But traction control as it's typically defined requires some sort of feedback to a spinning wheel to reduce power and regain traction . In this case, you're only able to manipulate the base timing table or fuel curve to aid the forward bite, it's across the board and there is no feedback. Not just when the tire spins. There is no "active" control, per se. If you think the advance curves aren't manipulated now for the same reasons, you're naive. They are. The EFI systems will just allow it to be more precise. And easier on the teams. Again, the sky is not falling.

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Permalink Reply by Greg Jones on July 9, 2011 at 12:23pm

I think what they do now since there is no direct feedback rom the wheels is monitor the rpm curve and when it is steeper than could happen without wheel spin, it detunes the engine to stop the wheel spin.

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Permalink Reply by Jim on July 9, 2011 at 1:09pm

This sounds like it take alot of driver talent out of the equation. I can get into a cup car and pin the throttle out of the turn and not worry about the back end coming out from under me rather than having to feel the car and feather the throttle to keep traction.

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Permalink Reply by GTX - HEMI on July 10, 2011 at 10:07am

FYI the big teams have been using traction control for some time. The transponder is so small it can be hidden almost anywhere and no be detected. Hendrick has been using it for some time.

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Permalink Reply by Mike Kenyon on July 10, 2011 at 10:24am

@GTX-HEMI, that is speculation.Until Na$crap catch's whom ever with it or you have a time stamp'd picture pointing out during an event.It's speculation.

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Permalink Reply by GTX - HEMI on July 10, 2011 at 10:38am

The transponder is so minute you will never find it.....I am in touch with some one that mfg's it and he says it has been in use for over a year. Hendrick was the first to use it. It can be placed inside a tube or frame it is so small to the eye it looks like a peice of welding slag. All I can tell you is the guy that mfg's this piece made his own FI system....computer/ECU.....only guy I know that built a 2000 hp FI/twin turbo engine with "NO" turbo lag.........after some test runs that would break the current record by a ton NHRA said DQ.....to fast. Built 8 sets of 2.0 rockers for Wadel Wilson for the new ford motor at the cost of 80K.

By the way he hates NA$CAR and wants nothing to do with them he lives in sin city.