nascrap and the 20 car cheating

I’m getting real tired of people who know nothing about performance engines HARPING about this.
Let me explain in a way most people can understand.
The connecting rod was light by 2.7 grams.
2.7 grams is about the weight of one dime
A racing engine rotating assembly is balanced to tolerances of +or- .02 grams it is preferred to have .00grams +or- . plus the balance engine parts are piston,wrist pin,rings and circlips plus .8 grams for oil.
NASCAR picks one connecting rod out of 1 engine per manufacture at random the 20 car just happened to be that car.
TO HAVE A BALANCED ENGINE EVERY ROD MUST WEIGH THE SAME!!
So if one rod was light they all were for a total of 21.7 grams letting the engine reach high revolutions faster that is not counting the pistons, rings and piston wrist pin's

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Permalink Reply by Brad Duerr on April 27, 2013 at 8:13pm

SST tonight.

Permalink Reply by timothy price on April 27, 2013 at 8:14pm

yes i know no one cares about nascrap but as an engine builder im tired of people who know nothing making comments on other sites and i just wanted to vent

Permalink Reply by Kevin Meyer on April 27, 2013 at 8:16pm

I care Tim.. I wanted to know why that made a difference. To me it seemed like a disadvantage...

Permalink Reply by Trooper Blue on April 27, 2013 at 8:23pm

It's a huge source for debate up here in Wisconsin/Kenseth land. If the articles that have been published up here are correct, TRD and its suppliers have major quality control issues. The weight of the rods was all over the place. The neighboring rod was supposedly 4 grams overweight.

Permalink Reply by timothy price on April 27, 2013 at 8:29pm

trooper before assembly all parts are made to weigh the same (mostly bi grinding weight off weight) if they do not weigh the same the engine will shake itself apart
contact any engine builder and they will say the same thing

Permalink Reply by Trooper Blue on April 27, 2013 at 8:37pm

I get the concept, but am still trying to weed through all of the BS. Several reports that I have read, including one on nascar.com said that the neighboring rod was 4 grams overweight.

TRD in their release said that they don't check every item that comes in from their vendors - that they rely on ISO certification. Perhaps that's a poor practice on their part. Either way, there's more questions than answers....

Permalink Reply by timothy price on April 27, 2013 at 8:40pm

true there

Permalink Reply by Mike Kenyon on April 27, 2013 at 9:37pm
I'm calling BullShit on TRD's response.
They are the engine builders,they have to know what components weight.
It's major part of engine building
Permalink Reply by Greg Jones on April 27, 2013 at 9:51pm

you're so right

we're supposed to believe TRD engines are not balanced?

right

Permalink Reply by David Z on April 27, 2013 at 8:23pm

Thanks for the post because I didn't think it made that big of a big difference. I am now better informed

Permalink Reply by Speed Freak 7 on April 27, 2013 at 8:45pm

I know exactly what you mean Tim, either TRD really sucks at quality control which I could believe for lesser teams but not for a team such as JGR or they are blowing a lot of crap out there ass which is more likely in this case. Just my opinion.

Permalink Reply by J.R. Sands on April 27, 2013 at 8:49pm
Not to mention what JGR has done in the last 24hrs sending back a bunch of engines ...

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