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Permalink Reply by Beagle7 on January 31, 2012 at 6:18pm

ahhh...I read the whole story..Reutimann will drive it for the 26 races shes not..thus most likely keepign it in the top 35 for next year if Danica is ready to go full time...

That makes sense..

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Permalink Reply by Bigzoom on February 1, 2012 at 12:58pm

Good article by Bob Pockrass about the points swapping

http://www.scenedaily.com/blogs/bobpockrass/Points-swaps-a-dirty-bu...

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Permalink Reply by Rob Hoban on February 1, 2012 at 3:08pm

I still don't agree but it is what the economics for NASCAR demands to keep big sponsors happy. Go Daddy is going to be Danica's full sponsor for the year and NASCAR is going to do what they can to be sure that she has a guaranteed spot in the 500. The networks love it as well to drive up the cost of advertising for the race. If Danica didn't make the filed then NASCAR and FOX would lost a ton of money.

Did Tony work this one out himself or did Mike Helton introduce Tommy to Tony to get this deal done? I'll go with the conspiracy threory on this one.

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Permalink Reply by Ernie Stratton on February 1, 2012 at 2:07pm

Would say the main reason that SHR went with TBR,is to keep Danica in the top 35 when she runs races going through outthe year.The reason he did not give her his points and use his past champ provisional,is if he had did that his winners circle points would have been lost.And in this economy every dollar counts.

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Permalink Reply by Bigzoom on February 1, 2012 at 3:46pm

Have seen some Tweets that SHR had some sponsorship and dollars to support a driver to fill the races Danica would not race. It's highly unlikely TBR would have been able to reach this deal without the hiring of David Reutimann. SHR needed someone they felt confident could keep the #10 inside the Top 35.

SHR could have easily gave Danica Tony's points and let Tony use the Past Champions Provisional, but several issues would have arised. Tony would have to start at the rear if a race is rained out (not a big deal at Daytona, but would be a concern at the other tracks). Also SHR still needed a driver for the races without Danica.

SHR looked at all the teams inside the Top 35 that could possibly be in a position to make a deal. FRM, Germain and the #32 team all had Ford deals. Finch was no longer in a position with hiring Kurt. TBR needed the support and SHR needed the points and a driver. It worked well for both sides.

I don't think any Nascar conspiracy was working in this deal. Now had Danica received points from Red Bull's closed teams...then YES! You could start all the conspiracy theories. But this looked like two teams that were able to mutually help each other out.

I'm just glad that deal is done. The points we've been watching for weeks are the Red Bull Racing teams that closed. It's been discussed many times by reporters and other racing outlets that Nascar rules state the only way a team can transfer points to another team is by the former team owner having some type of ownership. All inidcations are that won't happen with Red Bull. It's very likely Trevor Bayne and the #21 team will inherit points from one of the RBR teams. The biggest question still remains about the other RBR team. If Nascar allows TRG to inherit those points (even though they have no plans to race in 2012) they could sell them in some type of deal leaving RGM 36th in Owner Points. If Nascar doesn't allow them or if no other teams are able to work a deal, the points would go to RGM.

We probably won't know until the official entry list is recieved by Nascar.

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Permalink Reply by 7-SPEED-77 on February 1, 2012 at 4:15pm

Well since TRG ha no intention of racing, I don't think they should have any control of possible inherited points. IMO.

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Permalink Reply by speedy7 on February 1, 2012 at 4:24pm

This whole thing stinks, like my dirty underware or worse, which really stinks big time...

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Permalink Reply by Mike Kenyon on February 1, 2012 at 4:25pm

Ernie, has brought up probably the most important reason Tony didn't offer his 2011 points. Winners Circle Pay Plan.
Probably what strikes me most is ,another Hendricks team. By my count that makes 8 teams.

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Permalink Reply by speedy7 on February 1, 2012 at 4:52pm

Kinda sucks doesn't it ?

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Permalink Reply by Josh Fisher on February 1, 2012 at 6:05pm

TRG's NASCAR Program is done so that means as of the publishing of the entry list RGM will essentially be up to P37 in owners points. If RBR does not merge with anybody (and it looks like they won't) then that is two more sets of points that vanish once the entry list is published (well they're still there for the first 5 races, but in the scope of that weekend they've vanished). That would put RGM into P35 and locked into the race.

However if anybody is likely to get the TRG points I see it being the second TBR car (was the #35, will be the #36).

The Danica thing is really no different then the deal that Bayne has. Bayne is under contract for Roush but drives for the Wood Brothers, Danica is under contract with SHR via JRM but will drive for TBR.

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Permalink Reply by ROBERT SAVAGE on February 1, 2012 at 6:37pm

Lets say for instance RGM qualifies and wins the Daytona 500, but does NOT qualify in the top 35 for the next race, will his #1 in points position in the standings automaticly put him in the field ?

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Permalink Reply by TOG on February 1, 2012 at 6:44pm

they still go by previous years points.

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